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| Gauteng North Branch Committee Marlize Vermaak Werner Kriessbach Ina Coetzee |
Chairperson:
NORTHERN GAUTENG BRANCH MEETING
TUESDAY, 15 March 2011
___________________________________________________________________
DRAFT MINUTES
1. WELCOME
The Chairperson Ms. Ina Coetzee, welcomes all members present, with a warm welcome to the president. This is the second last stop on his walk about across the country.
2. APOLOGIES
Apologies received from Dries Boshoff, Marlize Vermaak, Deon Strydom, Zarepta Snyman, Jappie Richter.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
25 October 2010: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Mariaan Roets and seconded by Anso Steenkamp.
4. MATTERS ARISING
No matters arising, most questions will be handled in presidents address.
NATIONAL MATTERS PRESIDENTS ADDRESS
5. CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT (CPA)
Mr. Axel Grabowski presented a power-point slide show to members. Presentation available on Dentasas website under Members only.
Important points:
All work must have a certificate.
All faults must be documented.
For a remake the whole systems starts again.
Hard copy of prescriptions must be kept, other documentation may be scanned.
Dentasa is preparing all these necessary documentation for its members at a nominal
fee.
6. STANDARISING
The implementation of the Consumer Protection Act becomes effective as from 1 April 2011, however a 5 year implementation period has been granted to become ISO compliant, there after serious penalties will be imposed through none compliance.
7. ELECTIONS
Dentasa is currently not constitutionally correct, according to the King III report. Major
changes to our structure will have to be brought about.
A draft constitution will be available for members perusal and the new constitution will have to be accepted at the AGM to be held on 3-4 June 2011.
Mr. Grabowski remarked that he is tired; he has been doing "this for 27 years. He thinks
it will be unfair to the new president to be thrown into the deep end after the AGM, therefore he is going to call for early elections. Thus there will be time for the new candidate to get to grips with this huge task.
8. REPORT BACK ON SADTC COURT CASE
The president was glad to report that the Supreme High Court in Pretoria set a date for 9 May 2011.
9. MEDICROSS COMPETITION COMMISSIONER
An exchange of letters between DENTASA, Dr. Oelie van Schalkwyk and the Competitions Commissioner implying that the contract that Medicross wants labs to sign is tantamount to price fixing forcing labs to comply with the 4,9% increase Discovery has given. Thus it is recommended that labs do not sign this contract as the Competion Commissioner will be investigating the matter. Medicross has subsequently withdrawn the new contract and the old contract remains effective.
It was suggested by the Competitions Commissioner that considering that we are self-sufficient iro materials and pricing that we should have a price list.
DENTASA will be investigating that a price list may be in place once again in 2012.
9.1 BREAK AWAY FROM DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
10. RE-CURRICULUM ROAD TRIP
Mr. Grabowski informed the meeting that Council and the Universities of Technology will do a recurriculum road
trip across the country. These workshops will be held on Saturdays and members are encouraged to attend and make contributions to a new curriculum.
Mrs. Coetzee explained that the training institutions initiated this process and that Council is just one of the role
players.
Mr Grabowski added that the registrar of Council will be present at these workshops and that it is a good opportunity
for members to meet him.
The president is impressed with the administrational skills Mr. Mkambule, the resistrar, has presented.
11. THE 2011 DENTASA SUMMIT & AGM
The president reminded everybody that this event will take place at the Kyalami Castle on 3 & 4 June. Dentasa booked the whole venue.
Registration forms were available at the meeting or members can register on-line on Dentasas website.
Members are encouraged to attend as important matters will be decided at this AGM i.e. new DENTASA constitution.
DENTAL PENSION FUND
All employees that are currently employed must be a member of a pension fund. Irregularities have been uncovered and employers and employees are urged to make sure that they prescribe to what is been set out.
LOCAL MATTERS
12. MEMBERSHIP FEES
13. NEWS
14. RESIGNATION OF VICE
The vice-chairperson of Gau-N Branch resigned in January 2011 due to personal reasons. Mrs. Coetzee requested
anybody interested in filling this position to contact the Branch Committee.
15. MEETING TIME & VENUE
The meeting indicated that the current time and venue suited them. To keep things familiar this branch will
have all future meetings at The Elegant Lodge at 18:00.
16. GENERAL
Sterling Dental Suppliers were thanked for sponsoring the meeting.
16.1 CPD POINTS
17. CLOSURE
APPROVED MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
DENTAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH AFRICA
NORTHERN GAUTENG BRANCH MEETING
TUESDAY, 5 OCTOBER 2010
___________________________________________________________________
MINUTES
1. WELCOME
The Chairperson Ms. Ina Coetzee, welcomed all members present to this historical meeting of the Northern Gauteng branch.
2. APOLOGIES
Apologies received from Renier Swart, Fritz Gerber
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
19 February 2009: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Hannes Potgieter and seconded by Anso Steenkamp.
20 May 2010: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Mariaan Roets and seconded by Joggie Herbst.
4. MATTERS ARISING
19 February 2009:
Page 1: Font change
Page 3: word change
20 May 2010:
Page 1: Since the SADTC took the administration of CPD away from DENTASA almost a year ago, nothing has happened at Council with CPD.
5. ADOPTION OF AGENDA
9.1. Starting time
9.2. Appointment of the new Registrar of the SADTC
The adoption of the agenda was proposed by Ms. Roets and seconded by Ms. Steenkamp.
6. CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT (CPA)
It literally means to protect the consumer. Technicians manufacture a product for the consumer or patient. According to the law, we must have certain things in place in order to comply. If something goes wrong with your work you will be held liable and could be fined up to 10% of your turnover. Thus we must get product liability insurance. DENTASA is busy negotiating a group scheme for all its members.
In order to obtain liability insurance you need a dental technician qualification, a scope of profession and scope of practice. DENTASA has now finalised these documents. To what standards do you do your work? Our Act gives no standards. In order to have the correct standards we need to work towards obtaining the ISO13485 number. That is the standard we must work towards as required by the Regulator of the Medicines and Medical Devices Regulator.
You will firstly need a statement of manufacture, which will state that the work was done in the manufacturing facility (laboratory). Only CE certified materials might be used. All machinery used in the laboratory must be certified. Al must be documented in writing and kept for 5 years.
All technicians must give their input into the document on the DENTASA Website concerning this matter.
A certificate of authenticity must go out with your invoice.
In order to stop clients sending work to countries like Turkey and China, we need to set standards which all must adhere to. Other countries (all of Europe) must also conform to the same standards and rules by 2012.
Ms. Roets asked whether the dentist or the patient would be our consumer. Mr. Boshoff replied that there is not absolute clarity on this matter but as the dentist is not the end user, the patient should be the consumer.
Ms. Roets enquired where liability stops. Mr. Boshoff answered that liability stops with your product.
Question from the floor: Am I liable if payment has not been received?
Question: For what period will technicians be held liable for?
3 years as stipulated by the law. The detail must be sorted out and all technicians must give input.
CE means European Union certified.
Mr. Kriessbach mentioned that all technicians needed to stand together and become a part of DENTASA to ensure the best possible outcome is negotiated for the profession.
As the NRPL does no longer exist there will not be any tariffs for 2011, each technician may charge what he wants to. The medical aids may pay what they want to.
The PowerPoint presentation with all the relevant documentation will be on the Website under the Members only section.
Ms. Coetzee thanked Mr. Boshoff for addressing the meeting. Ms. Coetzee urged all members to participate and accept the situation, as it will be implemented. DENTASA is merely trying to help its members comply and did not instigate the law to be implemented.
7. REPORT BACK ON SADTC COURT CASE
Ms. Coetzee read the relevant document as on the PowerPoint presentation.
Mr. Grabowski reported that as soon as a court date is set, Council might no longer take any decisions, only proceed with its day to day running. If Council is found guilty all members of Council must resign. All decisions taken in absence of Mr. Boshoff and Mr. Owen will be null and void.
Mr. Grabowski urged all technicians to keep paying their registration fees, as this is necessary to be able to work.
Question: Is CPD still going on?
Mr. Boshoiff answered that all courses with CPD values, will still count.
8. BRANCH PROPOSALS FOR HOSTING THE 2011 AGM
Ms. Roets and Ms. Morris are working on a proposal to host the AGM at the Kyalami Castle.
9. GENERAL
9.1. Starting time for branch meetings
All members present voted and the majority decided on 18:00.
9.2. Appointment of a new Registrar of Council
The newly appointed registrar of Council phoned the DENTASA offices asking whether we would send out sms for Council to inform technicians of their new Website. No meeting was asked with the Executive of DENTASA.
10. ELECTIONS OF BRANCH COMMITTEE
Ms. Coetzee hoped for more nominations, but since only 4 were received no elections are necessary. The new branch committee of the Northern Gauteng branch:
Marilize Vermaak, Werner Kriessbach, Prithu Aramugam and Pier Botturi.
11. CLOSURE
Ms. Coetzee hoped that branch meetings happening countrywide this evening would deepen loyalty and participation of the members. An Association is a living organism, which evolves and grows and needs structure to support it. DENTASA is getting things done.
Ms. Coetzee thanked all members present for attending and declared the meeting closed at 19:49.
DRAFT MINUTES - 15 MARCH 2011
DENTAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH AFRICA
NORTHERN GAUTENG BRANCH MEETING
TUESDAY, 15 March 2011
___________________________________________________________________
DRAFT MINUTES
1. WELCOME
The Chairperson Ms. Ina Coetzee, welcomes all members present, with a warm welcome to the president. This is the second last stop on his walk about across the country.
2. APOLOGIES
Apologies received from Dries Boshoff, Marlize Vermaak, Deon Strydom, Zarepta Snyman, Jappie Richter.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
25 October 2010: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Mariaan Roets and seconded by Anso Steenkamp.
4. MATTERS ARISING
No matters arising, most questions will be handled in president’s address.
NATIONAL MATTERS – PRESIDENT’S ADDRESS
5. CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT (CPA)
Mr. Axel Grabowski presented a power-point slide show to members. Presentation available on Dentasa’s website under Members only.
Important points:
All work must have a certificate.
All faults must be documented.
For a remake the whole systems starts again.
Hard copy of prescriptions must be kept, other documentation may be scanned.
Dentasa is preparing all these necessary documentation for its members at a nominal
fee.
6. STANDARISING
The implementation of the Consumer Protection Act becomes effective as from 1 April 2011, however a 5 year implementation period has been granted to become ISO compliant, there after serious penalties will be imposed through none compliance.
7. ELECTIONS
Dentasa is currently not constitutionally correct, according to the King III report. Major
changes to our structure will have to be brought about.
A draft constitution will be available for members perusal and the new constitution will have to be accepted at the AGM to be held on 3-4 June 2011.
Mr. Grabowski remarked that he is tired; he has been doing "this” for 27 years. He thinks
it will be unfair to the new president to be thrown into the deep end after the AGM, therefore he is going to call for early elections. Thus there will be time for the new candidate to get to grips with this huge task.
8. REPORT BACK ON SADTC COURT CASE
The president was glad to report that the Supreme High Court in Pretoria set a date for 9 May 2011.
9. MEDICROSS – COMPETITION COMMISSIONER
An exchange of letters between DENTASA, Dr. Oelie van Schalkwyk and the Competitions Commissioner implying that the contract that Medicross wants labs to sign is tantamount to price fixing forcing labs to comply with the 4,9% increase Discovery has given. Thus it is recommended that labs do not sign this contract as the Competion Commissioner will be investigating the matter. Medicross has subsequently withdrawn the new contract and the old contract remains effective.
It was suggested by the Competitions Commissioner that considering that we are self-sufficient iro materials and pricing that we should have a price list.
DENTASA will be investigating that a price list may be in place once again in 2012.
9.1 BREAK AWAY FROM DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
It was suggested by the Competitions Commissioner that DENTASA breaks away from the Dept. of Health and
either join the Dept. of Trade and Industry or Dept. of Science and Technology. DENTASA will investigate the
feasibility of this possible break away.
10. RE-CURRICULUM ROAD TRIP
Mr. Grabowski informed the meeting that Council and the Universities of Technology will do a recurriculum road
trip across the country. These workshops will be held on Saturdays and members are encouraged to attend and make contributions to a new curriculum.
Mrs. Coetzee explained that the training institutions initiated this process and that Council is just one of the role
players.
Mr Grabowski added that the registrar of Council will be present at these workshops and that it is a good opportunity
for members to meet him.
The president is impressed with the administrational skills Mr. Mkambule, the resistrar, has presented.
11. THE 2011 DENTASA SUMMIT & AGM
The president reminded everybody that this event will take place at the Kyalami Castle on 3 & 4 June. Dentasa booked the whole venue.
Registration forms were available at the meeting or members can register on-line on Dentasa’s website.
Members are encouraged to attend as important matters will be decided at this AGM i.e. new DENTASA constitution.
DENTAL PENSION FUND
All employees that are currently employed must be a member of a pension fund. Irregularities have been uncovered and employers and employees are urged to make sure that they prescribe to what is been set out.
LOCAL MATTERS
12. MEMBERSHIP FEES
The treasurer, Werner Kriessbach stressed that both employers and employees are liable under CPA. DENTASA
procured the necessary insurance and it will be included in the DENTASA membership fee. He urged members to pay
their fees and encourage other technicians to become members.
13. NEWS
Mr. Pier Botturi explained that the Journal can become internationally accredited but it has to have a local content
supplement. This is to give it a ‘community feel’ aspect. Any non-dental news is what the editor is in need of.
14. RESIGNATION OF VICE
The vice-chairperson of Gau-N Branch resigned in January 2011 due to personal reasons. Mrs. Coetzee requested
anybody interested in filling this position to contact the Branch Committee.
15. MEETING TIME & VENUE
The meeting indicated that the current time and venue suited them. To keep things familiar this branch will
have all future meetings at The Elegant Lodge at 18:00.
16. GENERAL
Sterling Dental Suppliers were thanked for sponsoring the meeting.
16.1 CPD POINTS
A decision to the amount of points that will be needed will be taken after the the outcome of the court case on 9 May
2011. All points can be collected from the journal questioners except those pertaining to ethics that will have to
collect by attending an ethics lecture. Members are encouraged to continue collecting the CPD points.
17. CLOSURE
The chairperson closed the meeting a 20:20.
APPROVED MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
DENTAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH AFRICA
NORTHERN GAUTENG BRANCH MEETING
TUESDAY, 5 OCTOBER 2010
___________________________________________________________________
MINUTES
1. WELCOME
The Chairperson Ms. Ina Coetzee, welcomed all members present to this historical meeting of the Northern Gauteng branch.
2. APOLOGIES
Apologies received from Renier Swart, Fritz Gerber
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING
19 February 2009: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Hannes Potgieter and seconded by Anso Steenkamp.
20 May 2010: It is a true reflection of what transpired at the meeting: proposed by Mariaan Roets and seconded by Joggie Herbst.
4. MATTERS ARISING
19 February 2009:
Page 1: Font change
Page 3: word change
20 May 2010:
Page 1: Since the SADTC took the administration of CPD away from DENTASA almost a year ago, nothing has happened at Council with CPD.
5. ADOPTION OF AGENDA
9.1. Starting time
9.2. Appointment of the new Registrar of the SADTC
The adoption of the agenda was proposed by Ms. Roets and seconded by Ms. Steenkamp.
6. CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT (CPA)
Mr. Boshoff reported that a lot of hard work went into the CPA and it will form the biggest part of this meeting. The first part of the CPA was implemented in the beginning of April 2010. The full implementation has now been postponed to 1 April 2011. By then we will all fall under the CPA.
It literally means to protect the consumer. Technicians manufacture a product for the consumer or patient. According to the law, we must have certain things in place in order to comply. If something goes wrong with your work you will be held liable and could be fined up to 10% of your turnover. Thus we must get product liability insurance. DENTASA is busy negotiating a group scheme for all its members.
In order to obtain liability insurance you need a dental technician qualification, a scope of profession and scope of practice. DENTASA has now finalised these documents. To what standards do you do your work? Our Act gives no standards. In order to have the correct standards we need to work towards obtaining the ISO13485 number. That is the standard we must work towards as required by the Regulator of the Medicines and Medical Devices Regulator.
What is a custom made device?
Only 4 places in SA is ISO certified and it costs a huge amount of money, which is impossible to do in a small profession like our own. The Regulator advised us to become self-regulating, meaning we have to set our own standards and work towards obtaining the ISO.
You will firstly need a statement of manufacture, which will state that the work was done in the manufacturing facility (laboratory). Only CE certified materials might be used. All machinery used in the laboratory must be certified. Al must be documented in writing and kept for 5 years.
All technicians must give their input into the document on the DENTASA Website concerning this matter.
A certificate of authenticity must go out with your invoice.
In order to stop clients sending work to countries like Turkey and China, we need to set standards which all must adhere to. Other countries (all of Europe) must also conform to the same standards and rules by 2012.
Ms. Roets asked whether the dentist or the patient would be our consumer. Mr. Boshoff replied that there is not absolute clarity on this matter but as the dentist is not the end user, the patient should be the consumer.
Ms. Roets enquired where liability stops. Mr. Boshoff answered that liability stops with your product.
Question from the floor: Am I liable if payment has not been received?
Yes. The CPA states that for special ordered goods, like custom made devices made by dental technicians, you may ask a reasonable deposit and once delivered you must be paid in full. Once the patient uses your product, there is no value for you just for the patient.
Question: For what period will technicians be held liable for?
3 years as stipulated by the law. The detail must be sorted out and all technicians must give input.
CE means European Union certified.
Mr. Kriessbach mentioned that all technicians needed to stand together and become a part of DENTASA to ensure the best possible outcome is negotiated for the profession.
As the NRPL does no longer exist there will not be any tariffs for 2011, each technician may charge what he wants to. The medical aids may pay what they want to.
The PowerPoint presentation with all the relevant documentation will be on the Website under the Member’s only section.
Ms. Coetzee thanked Mr. Boshoff for addressing the meeting. Ms. Coetzee urged all members to participate and accept the situation, as it will be implemented. DENTASA is merely trying to help its members comply and did not instigate the law to be implemented.
7. REPORT BACK ON SADTC COURT CASE
Ms. Coetzee read the relevant document as on the PowerPoint presentation.
Mr. Grabowski reported that as soon as a court date is set, Council might no longer take any decisions, only proceed with its day to day running. If Council is found guilty all members of Council must resign. All decisions taken in absence of Mr. Boshoff and Mr. Owen will be null and void.
Mr. Grabowski urged all technicians to keep paying their registration fees, as this is necessary to be able to work.
Question: Is CPD still going on?
Mr. Boshoiff answered that all courses with CPD values, will still count.
8. BRANCH PROPOSALS FOR HOSTING THE 2011 AGM
Ms. Roets and Ms. Morris are working on a proposal to host the AGM at the Kyalami Castle.
9. GENERAL
9.1. Starting time for branch meetings
All members present voted and the majority decided on 18:00.
9.2. Appointment of a new Registrar of Council
The newly appointed registrar of Council phoned the DENTASA offices asking whether we would send out sms for Council to inform technicians of their new Website. No meeting was asked with the Executive of DENTASA.
Question: How does the process work of appointing a Registrar?
Mr. Grabowski answered that they must advertise in all national papers. Then the Exco of Council will short list the candidates and interview them. The Exco then send their candidate to the Minister of Health who must sign the appointment.
10. ELECTIONS OF BRANCH COMMITTEE
Ms. Coetzee hoped for more nominations, but since only 4 were received no elections are necessary. The new branch committee of the Northern Gauteng branch:
Marilize Vermaak, Werner Kriessbach, Prithu Aramugam and Pier Botturi.
11. CLOSURE
Ms. Coetzee hoped that branch meetings happening countrywide this evening would deepen loyalty and participation of the members. An Association is a living organism, which evolves and grows and needs structure to support it. DENTASA is getting things done.
Ms. Coetzee thanked all members present for attending and declared the meeting closed at 19:49.
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